Wednesday, August 24, 2005

The Big Lie

Cindy Sheehan is not advocating immediate withdrawal of troops from Iraq. By saying she is, George Bush is lying...again!

Bush is on a speaking tour where he is dealing with the Cindy Sheehan problem by, well, lying about her. The lie is fairly obvious to anyone who knows the situation. For those who give the President the slightest credibility, it may be harder to see because, frankly, George Bush is very good at lying. He tells what is know in critical thinking circles as the "Big Lie".

Bush and his horde told big lie after big lie to get us into the Iraq war.

Just to refresh your memory:

There were no WMD's in Iraq... and they knew it.

Those aluminum tubes could not be used for uranium processing, and they knew it.

Those mobile biological laboratories were a complete fabrication, and they knew it.

The documents concerning "Yellow cake" uranium were forgeries, and they knew it.

There was no possibility of that boogieman "Mushroom Cloud", and they knew it.

There were no Al Queda terrorists in Iraq associated with Saddam Hussein, and they knew it.

Osama Bin Laden had contacted Saddam Hussein and Saddam had told him to go away!
Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11 or terrorism...Nothing...

And they knew it!

Cindy Sheehan is causing Bush problems because she is asking him THE question that will blow his big lie out of the water if he answers it. Her son, Casey, is dead. His head was blown off. She has the right to know why. All of the reasons President Bush has given her so far, turned out to be...

Big Lies!

"[I]n the big lie, there is always a certain force of credibility," he wrote. The masses "more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods."

"Even though the facts ... may be brought clearly to their minds, they [the public] will continue to think that there may be some other explanation."

Those quotes are from a book called Mein Kampf. It was written by....

Adolph Hitler.

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually believe it."...Karl Rove

(actually it was Joseph Goebbels, but you would believe Rove said it, wouldn't you?)

"On Sheehan, the grieving mother who has camped near his ranch since Aug. 6, the president said he strongly supports her right to protest. 'She expressed her opinion. I disagree with it,' Bush said. 'I think immediate withdrawal from Iraq would be a mistake,' he said. 'I think those who advocate immediate withdrawal from not only Iraq but the Middle East are advocating a policy that would weaken the United States.'"

"This is the biggest smokescreen from him yet. I didn't ask him to withdraw the troops, I asked him what Noble Cause did Casey die for. I am still waiting for one of the press corps to ask him that. I am still waiting for that answer"...Cindy

"History tells us that, over the short term, the Big Lie usually works. Over the long term, though, the damage it does -- both to those who use it, and to the society on which it is inflicted -- is incalculable."...Thom Hartman

But if you really want to know why Casey Sheehan died...exactly why he was killed by a rocket propelled can go to the next link. The short version is that L Paul Bremer had the followers of Muslim Cleric, Muqta Al-Sadr attacked and an unknown number of them killed. Their crime was providing food aid to the poor, organizing traffic patrols, and getting the garbage picked up in an area where the Americans had destroyed the basic infrastucture. They were attacked for getting things done, something Paul Bremer couldn't achieve. Until that attack, Sadr's followers had been peaceful.

After that attack, they killed some Americans in retribution. One of those Americans was Casey.




Prairie Weather put me on to the article that had this little tidbit:

"By this time, American participation in the war in Vietnam had lost any remnant of popular support. A Gallup poll in January 1971 showed that 60% of Americans with a college education favoured withdrawal of US troops from Vietnam, 75% of those with a high-school education favoured withdrawal, and 80% of those with only a grade-school education favoured withdrawal."


  1. Not to quibble but ... she says bring the troops home now in her little video. So, technically, he's not lying on that one.

  2. Sitting here waiting for the video to load on my dial up (Living in the woods has its burdens), I think you are right in that I should have qualified the statement as Cindy has in the past. I think she now assumes everyone understands, but having assumed the role of public spokesperson she should be more careful.

    A more complete version of what she is saying is that she has asked the question all America should know the answer to: Why are we fighting (and dying ) for? If Bush can't or won't answer that question, she thinks we should come home.

    I am more emphatic, personally. having been opposed to the war from before it started, I think we should get out of the way and let the civil war happen. that would be the Civli war that was inevitable from our first corrupt meddling in Iraq many years ago.

  3. "I am more emphatic, personally. having been opposed to the war from before it started, I think we should get out of the way and let the civil war happen. that would be the Civli war that was inevitable from our first corrupt meddling in Iraq many years ago."[sic]

    Ditto. And I didn't mean to suggest that I thought you were wrong about her intent just that we know that most perceptions are created when someone tries to compress their answers (I voted for it before I voted against it) and in this case they could show the entire context of her statement and not be incorrect that she appears to be calling for immediate withdrawal.

    You might be interested in reading an Iraqi commenter, Hurria, in this post. Sorry, I can't remember how I came across that blog/post yesterday or I'd credit someone for the lead.